I've never understood the hype around Kotlin. It's just Java with some minor syntax improvements. But all the same complexity and verbosity underneath. At my startup, we've been using it for a year and it's been a total non-event.

I feel the same way, we actually switched from Java to Kotlin hoping for a simpler development process, but it's just been more of the same.

sounds like you just don't get it lol, how many kotlin experts you got on your team, zero?

are you kidding me, kotlin is so much more than just a faster java variant, it's designed to handle modern development

same here, been using kotlin at work for a bit and it's just not the game changer everyone made it out to be.

oh boy, sounds like someone's kotlin experience was almost as exciting as their personality

How much actual Kotlin code have you written, and did you come from a Java background?

yeah, kotlin is just java with some lipstick. the complexity is still there and it's not really any simpler to use.

Kotlin is the programming language equivalent of those fancy kitchen gadgets that look impressive but end up just collecting dust in your

are you kidding me? kotlin has saved us so much time and reduced our boilerplate code by like half.

idk, dude, i'm pretty sure the "minor syntax improvements" include things like "not making me wanna

i've spent months learning kotlin and it's been a total game changer. the syntax improvements are more than just minor.

did you and your team actually know what you were doing with kotlin or were you just re-writing

I've worked with both and kotlin allows you to your code and do things more concisely, cutting down on verbosity in a way.

are you serious that you think kotlin's improvements aren't a big deal?

Kotlin - the Ronseal of programming languages: does what it says on the tin, but doesn't exactly set your heart on fire

that's the most kotlin response I've ever read.

Same here, was expecting a lot more out of Kotlin but it's just been more of the same, and the complexity under the hood can be a real pain to deal with, especially when

what a trash take. have you even tried to learn kotlin beyond the surface level?

i cant believe i wasted so much time learning kotlin.

Oh really? What specific problems have you faced with Kotlin that make you feel it's not worth the hype?

kt is just java with goodstyle awayi mean, who needs readable code with a clean design when you can

same here, we switched to kotlin 2 years ago and its been meh at best.

yeah, i feel that. kotlin is just java with some window dressing. all the same crap underneath.

java devs be like "minor syntax improvements" 🤣

yeah, i feel you. kotlin is just a slight improvement over java but it's still a pain in the ass to

Have you considered that those "minor syntax improvements" have actually d our development process and reduced bugs by 30%? Maybe that's what you're missing out on?

are you kidding me? kotlin is a total game changer, null safety alone is worth the switch

really? have you tried to build anything complex with kotlin? the type system and null safety features can make a huge difference in

Kotlin is so much more than minor syntax improvements. It's a whole different with safety features, coroutines and conciseness that have really d our dev process.

so you're saying you'd prefer to write 50 lines of java instead of 20 lines of kotlin? you must love typing.

this. kotlin is just java with a bit of makeup. it's the same old complexity. no wonder it's been a non-event at your startup.

what a trash take. kotlin is way more than just java with some syntax sugar.

lol the 'dawg' in him must be barkin' cuz someone's big mad about kotlin.

are you kidding me? kotlin is a total game changer. I've ditched java altogether for it and my code

the dawg in him rly said "kotlin is just java with lipstick" 😂 man acting like java isn't a hot

Then why did you switch to it in the first place?

that's a terrible take. kotlin is way more than just java with minor syntax changes. the language design and features are a huge improvement over java in terms of conciseness.

are you kidding me? kotlin is a game changer. Null safety alone is a huge deal. your startup must be doing it wrong.

i'd say you're ly underestimating kotlin's capabilities and its much smoother learning curve for