i swear, why do css frameworks still not have a standard way of handling responsive typography? it's 2023 and i'm still having to write hacky media queries to get my headings to scale properly

totally, and don't even get me started on how none of them account for variable font support...

It's not that hard, just use a preprocessor like sass or less. Zero media query or hack needed.

idk what frameworks you're using but i've been using tailwind and it handles responsive typography just fine with minimal config.

because designers and developers are lazy and unwilling to put in the work to create a real standard.

are you kidding me? you're still whining about this?

yep, me too. its wild that we still have to fight to get basic typography to work on the web.

don't you think that's because everyone's using bootstrap?

are you kidding me? that's not the job of a css framework. Learn to write your own css for once

proof that css has one too many quirks

seriously, thats not even a hard problem. just use the css grid or flexbox, dude.

fr, it's wild how that's still an issue. i feel like the framework devs are just being lazy at this point.

then why don't you write your own framework if you think you can do it better?

Have you actually looked into any of the newer frameworks like Tailwind or Bootstrap 5 that have made huge strides in responsive typography, or are you just assuming things haven't changed since you

seriously, this is such a pain. and don't even get me started on the lack of consistency between frameworks.

right?! and don't even get me started on trying to keep the line heights consistent across different devices. it's like the frameworks are just phoning it in at this point

what's the point of having a css framework if you still gotta hack around it to get basic stuff working? just seems like more complexity than it's worth at that point.

Proof that responsive typography is truly 'responsive'... to the whims of our browsers and css gods

yeah, that drives me crazy and like, come on devs, get it together already. it's the little things like that which make a huge difference in the end user experience.

a standard is a recipe for mediocrity. Not innovation. most of the time it's actually the rigidity of a strict standard that makes people resort to hacks in the first place

are all these giant companies using css frameworks just too busy fighting over whose framework is best to actually

fr, its so annoying. and dont even get me started on the whole mobile-first vs desktop-first

i know, right? it's ridiculous. and don't even get me started on the lack of consistent grid systems. like, how hard is it to just give me a simple, responsive layout without having to write a

ikr?! why do these frameworks still make us jump through hoops just to get basic responsive typography?

fr, css frameworks need to step up their game on responsive typography. it's a basic need and we shouldn't have to mess around w/ a bunch of custom media queries just to get our

holy shit dude, you must be new to css. responsive typography has always been a mess and it's never gonna get better.

lol what are you talking about??? css frameworks have tons of ways to handle responsive typography

maybe its because no one's willing to compromise on aesthetics in favor of actual accessibility?

totally feel you. and don't even get me started on how they all handle accessibility differently

not a fan of massive css frameworks that try to solve every prob, just give me a simple grid system and i'm good to go

fuck that, css frameworks are flexible as hell. you just gotta know how to use em properly and get off your high horse

Have you looked into CSS clamp? It's been a thing since 2019 and does a lot of the heavy lifting for responsive typography...

tell me you're not just using bootstrap's default font sizes

fr, why is this still not a solved problem? i feel like every project i work on. I end up writing the same media queries over and over.

silver bullets and unicorns riding unicycles are the standard for responsive typography, apparently

have you considered that maybe nobody's figured out a solution that doesn't suck yet?

same reason we still don't have flying cars, i guess. priorities, amirite?

deadass, and don't even get me started on how every single framework handles spacing and padding differently, it's like

dude, if you can't hack together media queries by now, you should be spending more time learning

why don't you try out a utility-first css framework like Tailwind? they have some great built-in features for responsive typography that could save you a lot of time.

what's the point of having a framework if i still have to write custom css for every basic styling thing?

Aren't hacky media queries just a part of responsive design, though?

you're right, it's a shame the css gods haven't blessed us with a one-size-fits-all typography solution. guess we just have to keep hacking away at it like a bunch of medieval typographers.

omg preach!! and don't even get me started on accessibility, it's like these frameworks don't even consider screen

damn dude, quit whining. just use a utility-first css framework and you won't have to mess with

the standard way is just to make all your typography the same size and color and hope the user doesn't have a retina

dude, it's a simple case of using a decent font and some basic css. maybe stop worrying about the framework and just write good code.

you're so right, it's wild how many frameworks still make you jump through hoops for basic responsive type. the whole point of a framework is to save time, not create more work.

same on the css frustration, but at least we're not fighting with internet explorer's box model

what's with all the bespoke frameworks though? can't they just agree on a set of principles or something?

what are you talking about? css frameworks have tons of options for responsive typography.

same here, been stuck with this for years. it's crazy how something as fundamental as typography still isn't standardized. looks like nobody wants to step on bootstrap's toes

cba to think abt it too much, write custom breakpoints and be done with it

If everyone's just agreeing that it's a problem, who's actually doing something about it?

the day css frameworks figure out responsive typography is the day i finally understand flexbox

preach!!!! and don't even get me started on teh inconsistencies between browser rendering of font

responsive typography: because who needs readable text on a phone anyway

you're complaining about not being able to hack together a dirty workaround for responsive typography, meanwhile i've

fr, it's so annoying. like can we just get some sane defaults for font-size that scale nicely

i guess that's what they mean by "relaxing font sizes

i know, right? it's so frustrating. and don't even get me started on the lack of consistent grid systems. we really need some damn standards in this industry.

what's the point of having a "standard" way for responsive typography if every site has different design needs?

for real, css frameworks need to get it together with responsive typography.

lol sounds like someone needs to write a medium article about it and boom, "solved

lmao, welcome to front end development, where hte only thing that scales is your stress levels

omg yes!!! and don't even get me started on accessibility, i feel like we're still having to bolt that on afterwards instead of it being built in

for real, why is that still an issue? shouldn't that be a basic feature by now? css is so damn frustrating sometimes

thats on you, not the frameworks. learn how to use them properly and stop making excuses

same, though i'm pretty sure css frameworks are just trolling us at this point

Are you still using Bootstrap from 2018? or maybe someone's just being dramatic?

do you think it's that or are we just expecting too much from "frameworks" at this point

i know right? css devs be like "oh you want your text to scale with the screen size? lmao good luck with that

because frameworks are built for the lowest common denominator. you want a custom solution, write your own css.

lmao what a whiny baby. just use a css framework that doesn't suck.

have you tried using clamp()?

omg same, its ridiculous. and don't even get me started on how many of these frameworks still use px instead of rem. Like what's the point of making it 'responsive' if you're just gonna use fixed units anyway?

aren't you basically describing the entirety of front end development though

mate, css frameworks are trying their best. just gotta be patient and work with what you've got.

the culprit is once again the secret conclave of bearded css monks who rule the land with an iron

maybe because css is a mess and no one really knows what they're doing? just roll your own styles, it's not that hard. stop complaining and figure it out yourself.

maybe they should just switch to inline styles, that's the real future of web design 🤖

are you expecting the people who made bootstrap to care about accessibility and usability or

fr, css devs really be like "let's make the whole thing a mess of bugs and inconsistencies" 😒 can we just get a simple, consistent way to

same with grids. where's the straightforward way to define a grid that automatically adapts to

tbh it's not that hard to just write your own css, frameworks aren't supposed to hold your hand through every little

still waiting for w3c to decide on "camelcase, sidenav: true" vs "camsnide-control: yes

because html is still secretly a joke and were just figuring it out as we go

ugh, same. and don't even get me started on the state of accessibility in these 'frameworks'.

are you kidding me, who's leading the charge on this front? or is it just left up to the individual dev to figure it out

because you're a fucking idiot who doesn't know how to use css properly. responsive typography is easy, you're just lazy and want a magic button to do it for you.

same lol, i'm starting to think css just doesn't want my typography to be responsive, it's a personal vendetta at this

same, it's like they're more concerned with making their framework 'opinionated' than actually solving real world problems. and don't even get me started on accessibility, that's just an afterthought for most of them

can you not just use tailwind or bootstrap like everyones else?

You must be using the wrong framework, bro. Real pros use Comic Sans for all their responsive typography needs. Guaranteed to scale perfectly on any device 😎

what kind of nerd logic is this? responsive typography isn't rocket science, can't we all just agree on some basic sane defaults?

why not just use a utility-first css framework like tailwind? that shit handles responsive typography out of the box.

bro, css frameworks are like the wild west. no rules, just vibes. you want consistent typography?

dude, tailwind and bootstrap have been handling responsive typography just fine for years, your

not everything needs to be standardized, dude. typography is an art form, not a box to be checked.

not having a standard way is a good thing, means we're not locked into some rigid spec that can't be improved upon.

fr, css frameworks still need to sort out responsive typography. it's wild that we're still having to do all this manual work.