ugh, dependencies r the bane of my existence. why do i need 500 packages just to run a simple node script? and npm, don't even get me started on that dumpster fire.

PREACH. and don't even get me started on the security vulnerabilities that come with all those dependencies...

yall, i feel u! it's like, can't we just have a library that does one thing and does it well?

lol sounds like someone had a rough day. npm and dependencies can be a pain sometimes but they're

nm and node, the ultimately relationship. you rely on each other, but deep down you know you're better off without each other

at least npm's bloat doesn't weigh on my spaceship

lmao what u expect fam, we livin in the era of over-engineering everything.

have you tried using deno? it's a modern javascript runtime that aims to improve on npm's shortcomings.

learned abt this in 2005. just download all the.dlls manually and be done with it. what's the holdup?

dude, you need to chill. npm is just tryin to keep us on our toes, ya know? keeps life spicy. plus, who doesn't love a good dumpster fire every now and then?

yeah cuz nothing says "simple" like 500 packages

i feel ya, dependencies can be a real pain. npm does make it too easy to add a ton of stuff that you don't really need. but at least it's better than managing all that manually i guess?

dependencies are a fact of life these days. npm may not be perfect but it's the best tool we've got. sometimes you just gotta embrace the complexity and work with it.

right?! i feel that so hard. and the whole "it works on my machine" thing kills me every time.

preach!! and can we also talk about how half the packages are just maintained by one dude who stopped caring 3 years ago

preach, bro. and don't even get me started on how often those dependencies break because some random maintainer pushes a breaking change and now your whole

idk man, you gotta admit dependencies are super powerful. most major projects rely on 'em for a reason - they make it way easier to manage

lmao same. dependencies are just a fancy word for 'technical debt'. and have you tried shifting to yarn? seemed to simplify things for me, but i'm still dreaming of the day we can just write code without all the extra drama

i've been coding for years and i've never had an issue with dependencies.

You sound like you're the first person to ever have to deal with modular programming. modern software is complicated, get over it.

Couldn't agree more. And don't forget, those 500 packages come with 500x the attack surface.

ikr? npm is a mess but we need it. still, dependencies are the worst. why can't we just write code without all the baggage? ugh, this industry drives me crazy sometimes.

dependencies are just a part of the game. If you want to play with the big kids. They make your life easier in the long run, even if it feels like a hassle upfront. Learn to love the , or get left behind.

preach, i've spent hours trying to debug issues only to find out it's some obscure version conflict between two dependencies.

that's not dependencies being the problem, that's you not knowing how to manage them. blame the tool, not the game.

that's nothing, my browser tabs count is that many.

Yeah, weird how complexity just happens on its own, right?

sorry not sorry, 500 packages dont scare me, efficiency isn't about using the bare minimum, it's about building a workflow that gets the

wanna build an app, use react, express, mongo, and sqlite and maybe some other stuff too.

idk why u think npm is bad, i've seen more efficient deploys from my aunt's webcam

I feel you, right? But someone make a magic button that just lets me get the right dependencies with 1 click and loads them all at once would change my life

at least they're not bundling a functioning language this time, that's progress

Dependencies are a reality of modern development. You can't just write a single script and call it a day, things have to work together ly.

yaaas can relate to the deps hell sometimes i'm like 90% sure some unnecessary library is gonna be the reason my app crashes forever.

dependencies are necessary, get over it. 500 packages might seem like a lot, but it's the nature of modern development.

erm, kinda hoped you'd've figured that out before calling it a dumpster fire

same here, dependencies are like a never-ending game of jenga. and don't even get me started on the security vulnerabilities that come with

ikr? dependencies are the worst. and npm is such a mess, its like they don't even try to make it

lol you're complaining about npm on the same day you legit told me yarn is the devil what's good

Didn't we solve this problem with packages.json a decade ago? Did you just write your code in 2010 and forget to update?

i hear ya, dependencies can be such a pain. and npm, don't even get me started on that hot mess.

Yeah, I feel you, but at least node packages are better than my relationships, which require 500 personal problems and 0 maintenance surprises .

yeah dependencies can get out of hand, but let's be real, a lot of the issue is with our own questionable import habits - how many times have you installed a whole library just

idk, dependencies aren't that deep. it's just how the is set up, get used to it.

Sounds like you just discovered the true meaning of being a modern software engineer: constantly fixing someone else's problem so your code can work.

mate, have you even tried to understand how the works?

yeah, because nothing says "simple node script" like a 100 lines of package.json poetry

Preach. And don't even get me started on the security nightmare that is npm. I mean, who thought it was a good idea to automatically download and execute arbitrary code from the internet?

tbf it's not like your node script is just running a simple "hello world" it's probably installing the entire internet just to run in the

You know what's worse? Reimplementing a wheel over and over because you're too lazy to manage dependencies. Npm isn't perfect, but it's better than the alternative.

are you kidding me? dependencies are what make your life easier. Dude. try rewriting a lexer or a jwt lib from scratch every time you need one and see how you like it.

have you considered using yarn instead of npm? just askin

dependencies r the best, they're like digital lego bricks!

Have you ever considered rewriting that simple node script in a language without dependency hell? Just asking...

dependencies are a small price to pay for not having to reinvent the wheel, imo. and npm isn't perfect but it's way better than managing dependencies by hand

You're just not using them right. All those packages add a ton of functionality to your script, and npm isn't all bad once you learn its quirks.

come on, dependencies aren't the enemy, they're just the way of the game. if you want to roll with a lightweight solution, get back to compiling your own code from scratch, i'm good over here with the ease and efficiency of a well-managed npm project

same to both. on a related note, can someone tell me why i always have to alt-tab to close a background process? it's driving me insane

hey, you've got a point there. ever tried streamlining your dependencies and using more targeted packages? might save you some headaches. what do you think could be done to improve the npm ?

guilty as charged, friend. i've got a whole 'dep-therapy' session scheduled for the weekend.

lol are you kidding me? dependencies are what make node so powerful.

really? what kinds of node scripts are you trying to run that require that many dependencies? sounds like you might need to rethink your approach if you're constantly battling with package bloat.

Is this a cry for help from a Node.js developer who's just trying to make a to-do list app but ended up accidentally building the entire

lmao sounds like someone needs a crash course on modern web dev 🤖 i bet their scripts are 10 lines long and take up 100mb 😂 npm is a blessing and a curse, but at least it beats the alternative

do you really think nobody else has complained about this stuff before?

lol tell me about it. npm is just a fancy way to download the entire internet onto your computer.

have you tried yarn?

dude, if you're complaining about a few hundred kb of dependencies, you're doing nodejs wrong. use yarn, and stop blaming the package manager for your own lazy coding

tell me about it, i'm starting to think my laptop is secretly a package manager with a nodejs hobby

You know, I've wondered the same thing. Do you have any better solutions in mind for managing dependencies and package management? Seems like there's got to be a more d approach.

dependencies are what make development possible. the dev pace would be way slower without them, imo.

yeah, dev dependencies are the worst. try parallel streams, it makes a world of difference

dependencies r good. they're what make software scalable. run with what u got or forever be stuck in a single-threaded nightmare.

yeah, for real tho. why tf do we need like 50 different packages just to print "hello world"?

Actually, with a package manager like npm you get the benefit of security updates and decentralized maintenance, that one script would require manually downloading and updating 500 separate libraries each time which would be a nightmare

i know, right? it's so frustrating. and npm is just a mess. i'm over here trying to do a simple thing and i have to wade through all this

dude, are you even using yarn?!

have you considered using a containerized environment like docker? seemed to simplify my npm issues ly.

are you using a package manager or just sweeping dependencies under the rug?

Have you actually looked at the code you're trying to run? Chances are those "500 packages" are there for a reason - to provide functionality you need.

nah man, dependencies are a necessary evil. npm might be a mess but it makes our lives way easier.

did you maybe consider writing your own libraries from scratch or are you just gonna complain

maybe we can just skip the dependencies and write everything in assembly

tiresome dependencies + an unstable marriage with npm = software entropy

have you even tried yarn? or are you just unaware of the alternative?

what's the actual problem you're trying to solve that requires a node script?

haven't you heard of cargo cult programming?

nah, hard disagree. dependencies are the lifeblood of modern dev.

i feel u on that bro. dependencies are such a pain in the ass.

Oh come on, that's not npm's fault, it's yours for choosing crappy dependencies. A well-designed app doesn't need 500 packages to get the job done.

dependencies are like in-laws - you can't live with them, can't live without them. at least with in-laws you can hide in the bathroom for a while.

dependency drama already coming for npm. sounds like my college relationship struggles all over again

same, i'm starting to think the only thing npm is good for is creating a business model for therapists

i feel you, but at least npm has a 'dependency hell' mode where you can just stare at the list of 500 packages and contemplate the meaning of life

seriously, what the hell is wrong with the javascript these days? how did it get so bloated and out of control?

Dude, I feel you. All the dependencies are such a hassle. And don't even get me started on npm, that thing is a mess. But hey, at least we can commiserate in the struggle.

at least you're not a java developer stuck in a 10-year-long war with maven

nah fam, dependencies are what make the world go round.

you're mad at dependencies bc they're like building blocks, and 500 is a small number compared to how many times it'd take me to rewrite

fr, dependencies be wildin these days. and npm? what a mess. makes me wanna throw my whole laptop out the window sometimes tbh.

omg yessss i'm so with you on that... and have you ever tried to debug a problem only to realize it's because of some obscure dependency